Bear Meat for the Bear ??? (could be offensive pictures to anti-hunters)

Discussion in 'Wild Game' started by bearcarver, Nov 26, 2010.

  1. scarbelly

    scarbelly Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Hey Bear

    That is one awesome animal. There should be some great eatin for sure
     
  2. iamaxxer

    iamaxxer Fire Starter

    This is an awesome bear..... But with my personal experience in bear hunting, butchering the bear ASAP after the kill is very important for top quality bear meat. What bothers me is how stiff his front legs are.... How long was he down before they recovered him? With the 3 to 4 inches of fat that this aninal would have been hauling under his coat,  it takes forever forthe bear to cool with the hide on...

    The best bear meat I have ate, was skinned and quartered in under an hour... This meat will be all right but it won't be the best tasting.....
     
  3. native

    native Fire Starter

    I'm not a hunter and I donate to Animal Humane Organizations. But I have no problem with SPORTSMEN (and women)  harvesting animals for food.  Wildlife management is important to have a healthy, sustainable population.

    I DO have a problem with those that go out and take potshots at everything that moves, leaving many animals to die a slow painful death.  The only canned hunt I think should be approved would be to use those guys as the prey.

                                                                          IMHO
     
  4. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    He only traveled 25 yards, after the one shot through both lungs.
    It probably took them (13 guys) a good part of the day to get him out of the woods. 535 pound bears don't usually hang around the back of your pickup truck, waiting for a ride, and they don't drag too easy. Pike County, PA is full of swamps, so I would guess this one was shot a ways back, along the swamp. And if you know anything about swamps, you almost always have to walk down hill to get to them, and up hill to get out of them.

    I don't know about other states, but PA Game Commission has done miracles building the number of Black Bears in the state.

    One of the ways they do this, is by having a Game Commission Biologist carefully gut the Bear at one of their numerous check-points, so he can inspect the sexual organs, the teeth, and other biological happenings. Gary Aldt was the foremost authority in the country on Black Bears, and he was instrumental in this whole plan. It is illegal to gut your own Bear in PA.

    So it would be kinda hard to get a 500+ pound bear from a few miles from the nearest road, to a check-point maybe 20 to 40 miles from your hunting spot in an hour. You just gotta do what you gotta do, and hope for the best.

    All things considered, just getting him there in the same day is an accomplishment.

    Bear
     
  5. meateater

    meateater Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member

    Heck you could tackle them at that distance.

     
     
  6. walle

    walle Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    Pass my congratulations on to your friend.  That is one HUGE BRUIN!!  I've seen a few that big, but they are far and few between.

    Can't wait so see some bear bacon... [​IMG].

    Thanks for sharing BC, I LOVE THIS POST!
     
  7. iamaxxer

    iamaxxer Fire Starter

    Follow me here!.... this is an awesome bear... great shot placement... a bear I would love to have taken, but what I'm saying is don't expect the meat to be top notch!!

    I'm not dissing the hunt or the hunter but when you drop a trophy bear and take most of the day pulling it out of the woods the meat WILL have a taste to it more so than one that was skinned and butchered in an hour...

    Like I said personal experience.... 

    What I should diss is the PA. game commission's laws, they are enforcing game laws that  force you to run the risk of destroying the meat of this awesome bear by not properly cooling the meat down after the kill... 

    All I read on this forum is food safety... temps in the safe zone in your smoker,and proper handling of raw meat...... sorry this don't qualify!

    While I have never seen a bear of this size in Minnesota their DNR allows you to harvest your bear and gut on site, yes it has to go to a check station for the removal of a tooth and a chunk of a rib for examining. But you can begin with cooling asap....I have seen guys haul in bags of ice to cool down the body cavity on site....I have also seen guys drive around for hours with an unskinned bear in the back of their truck(showing it off). I know what meat I wouldn't eat.....

    Again awesome bear!
     
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2010
  8. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I I understood what you meant. I didn't think you were picking on my buddy or PA. I just stated what the rules were, and that we had to do what we had to do. Since you got me thinking about it, I looked it up, and that rule of "No Gutting" that they had when I used to hunt Bear, has been changed. Now you can gut them. Maybe they had too many complaints about spoiled meat. Other than that, the time is a factor, and I didn't ask how long it took, but in the picture of the Bear on the fork lift, it is still day time, so it was a shorter time than many. 

    I know we always hung our deer up to let them cool out before we cut them up. I went with a buddy of mine to take his deer to a butcher, and the guy just threw it on a pile of deer (not in a cooler). Then he went back two days later, and it was still in the pile!

    I can't fault the PA Game Commission, because they did a Hell of a job with the Black Bear Population in PA. We now average about 3,000 harvested every year here in PA.

    I will however be very careful with the meat---if I get any of it.

    Does Iowa have many Black Bear?

    With all that corn, they would be good eating, I would think?

    Thanks,

    Bear
     
     
  9. iamaxxer

    iamaxxer Fire Starter

    Bears is Iowa?? Nope...might hear of one a year roaming the country side but no bear season here... We have done all of our bear hunting up in northern Minnesota around the International Falls area... But yes we have some of the best whitetail hunting in the country! All of our whitetail are raised on corn and beans and browse very little on anything else 8 months out of the year...

    Glad to hear that you can gut it on site... That would help tremendously. And like previously stated bears can carry tric. so cook well just like pork...
     
  10. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member


    It's been awhile since I hunted Bears, so I don't know when they changed that rule---I'm glad they did. Maybe it was just until they got all the info they needed, and maybe a lot of complaining stopped it.

    PA is a great hunting state, with about 3,000 Bears, and about 350,000 to 360,000 whitetails (more than a third buck) bagged every year.

    They have been working on establishing an Elk herd too, but I don't know how that's coming along.

    Yup, our deer usually have ticks on them too!

    Thanks again,

    Bear
     
  11. Whoever shot an 879 pound bear with a bow and arrow must have some huge cajones

     
     
  12. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Whoever shot an 879 pound bear with a bow and arrow must have some huge cajones




    Thats real nice black bear. Wasn't there a new state record set this year?
    Yeah, I think as of last year, the New PA State Record is 879 pounds---Shot with a Bow & Arrow!


    Yup,
    I heard there was a big stink about it.
    Apparently some locals were feeding it for years, as they do all over Northern PA.
    But it was investigated, and found to have been taken legally, so the only ones who were breaking the law were those who were feeding it.
    Even a friendly Bear would get annoyed with an arrow sticking in him, especially an 879 pound Bear, so I would have to agree with the size of the cajones.

    Bear

    PS: Another buddy of mine lives in Potter County, in a Log Cabin that he cut all of the trees down & built himself.
    He heard a noise outside one night, while his 80 year old Dad was visiting him. He looked out the peep-hole in the back door, and couldn't see, so he told his Dad to turn the back porch light on. His Dad said, "The light is on!".
    He couldn't see, because the bear was standing on his hind legs against the door, blocking the peep-hole. He locked & loaded, but the Bear lumbered off.[/quote]
     
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  13. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I figured I'd Bump this up, since it's been hiding for 7 years, and the Pennsylvania Rifle Black Bear Season opens November 18, 20, 21, and 22.


    Bear
     
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  14. woodsman5150

    woodsman5150 Fire Starter

    awesome pics and a great time-congrats on that experience
     
  15. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member


    Thank You Woodsman!
    I wasn't there on this hunt---Just my Buddies. :(

    Bear
     
  16. radio

    radio Smoking Fanatic

    That's a big'un! never ate bear meat, but hear it's awfully good. Did you end up getting a roast or something from that one?
    A few months ago, a member of the Acrobats of China brought me a pair of huge Grizzly claws he wanted set with silver and Turquoise for necklaces. The puppies were just over 3 1/2 inches long!
     
  17. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Yeah, they can get huge!!!
    I never got up to my Buddy's place to get some, and I never pushed it, because it was so big it probably took them too long to get it to the butcher & get it cooled down.
    I got some from another Buddy of mine since---Smaller Bear & it was Great !!

    Bear
     

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