This 5 pound baby went in at 10am, pulled it at165 (6pm)...wrap it with a little bit of apple juice, then into the oven till 205..only took 2 hrs in the oven! beef broth in the water pan. Taste about the same as my first one....dam good! covered it with Montreal steak spice and mopped a few times with Sweet Baby Ray BBQ sauce. Slided 3/4 of it...rest I pulled. I think next time i'll go really light on the steak spice....does anyone go easy on the rub? Thanks everyone!