2013-06-07 WFH Smoke - Blade Chuckie Pot Roast (in progress)

Discussion in 'Beef' started by piaconis, Jun 6, 2013.

  1. piaconis

    piaconis Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    Greetings folks!

    My wife has had a craving for pot roast since seeing one of her friends post a pic of one on Facebook.  Originally, I wanted to do a brisket this weekend, but a smoked chuckie pot roast seemed like a good compromise.  I've done a few chuckies before, and I've also added some fun items with them (like Chef Jimmy's famous au jus).  My thought was to combine some of these things and make it my own, with the helpful experiences of those who have posted before me.  So, I purchased a nice 3.20# blade roast that had wonderful fat marbling throughout, and decided to give it a go.

    After some searching, I think I have my plan in place.  Wanted to run my thoughts past all of you, and see if there are any holes in my plan.  After all, this is a craving my wife has...and if mama ain't happy, ain't no one happy!  [​IMG]

    Here's the plan:
    Time To Dinner (HH:MM)Process Step
     T -17:00Sprinkle roast with L&P and Montreal steak seasoning. Seal in vac pouch and let rest in the fridge overnight.
     T -09:00
    Remove from vac pouch, rinse, and season again.  Set roast aside in the refrigerator until smoker time.
     T -08:45Fill the smoker with charcoal and ignite the chimney starter.
     T -08:30Prep 1 whole onion, sliced; 1 small bag of baby carrots; 3 ribs celery, sliced; and 4 cloves garlic, peeled.  Place them in a foil roasting pan
     T -08:15Verify smoker temp at 225 degrees and load drip pan/veggie roast pan into bottom of smoker, roast over top.
     T -06:45Add four cups beef broth, 2 tbsp tomato paste, 2 sprigs of rosemary, 1/2 tsp dry thyme, and 2 bay leaves
     T -04:30Quarter 8 to 10 red-skinned potatoes
     T -04:00 (approx.)At 160 degree IT, move pan to main cooking rack.  Remove bay leaf packet and add roast to the broth and veggie mixture.  Add potatoes around the roast and cover the pan with foil.  Continue to run smoker at 225 degrees.
     T -01:00 (approx.)Remove roast at 200 degree IT.  Set aside roast.  Strain liquid from pan into fat strainer and remove bay leaves.  Reintroduce roast to veggies in pan.  Cover with foil and set aside in towel-lined cooler or warm oven.
     T -00:45After allowing the broth to separate, pour broth mixture into a bowl with 1 cup Shiraz and set aside.  Pour remaining fat into a medium saucepan and whisk in flour over medium heat until the mixture achieves a nice paste consistency.  Allow the roux to cook until bubbling, but careful not to scorch.
     T -00:30Add broth/wine mixture to the roux and allow to simmer.  Reduce to desired consistency.  Salt and pepper to taste.
     T -00:00Debone roast and transfer to serving plate with veggies.  Pour gravy to bowl for use on the side.  Eat until lethargic.

    Any errors in my logic?
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2013
  2. roller

    roller Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member

    Sounds good to me !
  3. s2k9k

    s2k9k AMNPS Test Group

    Are you planning on putting the onion, carrots and celery in at the beginning? If you are planning on eating those they might be a little mushy at the end. Might want to add at same time as the potatoes. I think the baby carrots won't take as long as the potatoes (depending on the size of the potatoes) at least any time I have cooked them in the crock pot baby carrots didn't take very long. Whole carrots (cut up) do take a little longer.

    I tried this once and put all the veggies in at the start and they were mushy way before the meat was done so I ended up pulling it all before the meat was done and ended up with tough meat and mushy veggies. I think there is a big timing thing on doing this. Lately I have been smoking the chuck for about 5 hours then throwing it in a crock pot with veggies for about another 4 hours and it comes out great. I do want to try doing it all in the smoker again but next time I will really think about timing.
  4. piaconis

    piaconis Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    Well, I've tried to type this up a few times, but it seems there is an issue when trying to attach more than one photo from your recent uploads.  Let's try this again.

    So, after thinking over the strategy with Dave's input considered, I have modified it slightly.  First thing that I changed was that I simply rubbed on the L&P and seasoning, and returned it to the butcher paper instead of a vac pack.  The reason...well, I was seriously lazy.  However, I did decide to change up the plans on the veggies.  I plan to add them around the roast's 150 IT mark to roast/sweat in the pan, then process the rest at 160-165 IT.  We'll see if that helps the veggie texture.  So, as Michael Symon says...Heeeeeeeeere we go!

    After being splashed with Lea & Perrins, seasoned with Montreal steak seasoning, and wrapped in the fridge overnight

    Rinsed off the roast and seasoned again.  I inserted the temp probe at a diagonal angle into the thickest part of the meat to ensure it will not protrude out too far when I cover the pan with foil later.

    Another view...

    Smoker is up to temp, and TBS is rolling

    And it's on, with the drip pan under to catch what renders

    More to come!
  5. s2k9k

    s2k9k AMNPS Test Group

    Looking good so far!!! Can't wait to see how it comes out!!!
  6. Sounds good and I'm in!
  7. piaconis

    piaconis Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    Added the veggies at 150 IT.  Added the garlic that I forgot at 151 IT, lol.

  8. kathrynn

    kathrynn Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Looking yummy.....count me in!  [​IMG]

  9. pgsmoker64

    pgsmoker64 Master of the Pit Group Lead OTBS Member

    Lookin good P!

    Can't wait to see the finished product.

  10. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Looking good so far! We love our smoker roasted veggies!! Thank goodness you remembered the garlic (that's my favorite part)!!! I like to smash a piece of garlic and spread it on the beef, dip it in the Aus Jus Yumm!
  11. kathrynn

    kathrynn Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Waiting on more q-views!!!

  12. piaconis

    piaconis Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    Still having some trouble posting today.  Here's where we are:

    Mixed 4 cups broth, a few sprigs of rosemary, some dried crushed bay leaf (thought I had fresh in the fridge, but apparently not), and almost a teaspoon of dry thyme (my wife likes it so I added more).  Also guesstimated two tablespoons of tomato paste.

    Added broth to veggies and the roast to the tray and covered in foil

    Letting the smoker run 250 to 275.  It's been foiled for the last hour and a half, and we're sitting at 187.  Hoping it finishes off soon.
  13. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Out of curiosity how close are you to the plan that you wrote out?
  14. piaconis

    piaconis Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    Almost dead on.  I got a late start, due to some issues at work and my wife's unexpected sugar crash this morning.  I also delayed the veggie prep because of the decision to delay adding them.  But I just pulled the roast at 195.  Had I started on time, it would have been dead nuts on with my estimate.

    Here's a view at 195 IT

    As is a fine tradition in my household when I'm using aluminum foil pans, I turned with the pan, tripped on the dog, bent the pan, and spilled liquid on my foot.  [​IMG]

    Anyway, I drained the juice off to a fat separator.  Problem is, not much fat is separating (I suspect some is on my foot).  Gonna try to pour more liquid from that pan, but I'm guessing I'll need to add some butter to the roux.

  15. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Looks great!!!

    The last time I pulled a stunt like that I dropped a whole chicken in the gravel. Ever heard of the five second rule [​IMG]
  16. kathrynn

    kathrynn Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I did that too.(only I bumped into the door frame that has been there forever.)..and hopped around for a while on one foot.  How do you like that fat separator?  Looks like the one I have.  Love mine.

    Roast looks wonderful!

    Last edited: Jun 7, 2013
  17. seenred

    seenred Smoking Guru Group Lead OTBS Member

    Lookin' good, piaconis! Keep that Qview coming!

  18. piaconis

    piaconis Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    Poured the separated fat into a saucepan

    Whisked in some flour to make a roux

    Needed to add more fat to give a nice silky texture to the gravy

    Meat is done resting

    Gravy is strained again through a finer strained to get any of the herbs out of it

    Ready to serve

    Pretty nice smoke ring from the cherry wood

    Veggies had great texture!  I actually pulled that part off.  I'd do a couple of things differently on a future smoke.  First, I dumped the room temperature broth mixture in with the veggies and roast, and found out quickly that was a mistake.  I should have added the mixture to the pan with the veggies, allowed it to come up to temperature, then added the roast and foiled.  Second, some of the red skinned potatoes I used were HUGE.  I should have cut a few of them down a little more, as a couple were a little underdone.

    Overall, it was tender and flavorful.  I consider it a success.  Looking forward to trying it again sometime.  Thanks for following!
  19. piaconis

    piaconis Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    Kat, love the fat separator. Makes all the difference.
  20. s2k9k

    s2k9k AMNPS Test Group

    That looks Awesome P!!! I'm happy it all came together on time!!! Great job!!!

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