check this uds site out youll get a kick out of this hahah

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If he's making a living and not sponging then all the best to him. Some folks are just hell bent on someone's success. And yes I am a Republican.
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He must be a friend of yours or you know him from another board?
Actually he is my uncle. 

Just kidding.
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Nope, I've never met him.  I've just read a lot of good things about him and his smokers on the BBQ Brethren.
All i am saying is hes a hack!! and a crook in my mind and after seeing his pic, well yes he looks like a scumbag to boot,
Okay . . .
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and as far as the basket he sells that as well for a mere 35$ oh thats just a ring not the basket an yes thats bolts holding it together
That's a Mini Charcoal Ring that goes inside the charcoal basket for doing lower temp smokes.  That's not the actual charcoal basket.
having a uds yourself you must see the insanity in his prices and quality?
It's funny how everyone is harping on the price and throwing out figures like $600 or $1200.  The $1200 model is a stainless steel drum so you know it would cost you a bit to build one of those.  The model that is closest to what we build is $325.  In all actuality, I would say that's not too bad.
you seem like a good guy and  just my opinion and nothing more you dont have to agree with me.
Well, thank you.  Nothing wrong with a little healthy debate whether we agree or not.
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actually the one like ours is the 375$ one mine is 23 1/2 x36 haha ok im done!! and no Meateater I dont have a problem with someones success, i just though it was postworthy to most the people on here that build their own, but yes i doubt he is selling too many
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You can't completely believe everything you read like that.  You never know how some of those smokers may have been been influence in making their comment, even unknowingly.

There's really no way to be 100% sure unless you buy & try it yourself.

Personally I think this forum is more valuable than any smoker, even that over priced.  Of course I am more of the type of person that would rather help someone else out, and expect nothing in return, except returning the favor if ever needed to someone else.

 
Nope, I've never met him.  I've just read a lot of good things about him and his smokers on the BBQ Brethren.
 
im with you lol
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You can't completely believe everything you read like that.  You never know how some of those smokers may have been been influence in making their comment, even unknowingly.

There's really no way to be 100% sure unless you buy & try it yourself.

Personally I think this forum is more valuable than any smoker, even that over priced.  Of course I am more of the type of person that would rather help someone else out, and expect nothing in return, except returning the favor if ever needed to someone else.

 

 
 
actually the one like ours is the 375$ one mine is 23 1/2 x36 haha ok im done!! and no Meateater I dont have a problem with someones success, i just though it was postworthy to most the people on here that build their own, but yes i doubt he is selling too many
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The scumbag comment was what made me comment back. I hope he sells a bunch with a "Made In America" sticker on them!
 
 
Well, at the risk of continuing this mountain out of a mole hill discussion . . . but, what the heck . . .
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actually the one like ours is the 375$ one mine is 23 1/2 x36 haha ok im done!! and no Meateater I dont have a problem with someones success, i just though it was postworthy to most the people on here that build their own, but yes i doubt he is selling too many
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Oops . . . my bad.
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  Still $375 for a good heavy guage barrel would be a good price for someone doesn't have access to clean used drums or for whatever reason find that route more convenient.

If you look at all of the Testimonials page

http://www.bigdrumsmokers.com/testa.htm

and the Awards page

http://www.bigdrumsmokers.com/awards.htm

it certainly appears as if he is selling quite a few.
 
You can't completely believe everything you read like that.   You never know how some of those smokers may have been been influence in making their comment, even unknowingly.

There's really no way to be 100% sure unless you buy & try it yourself.

Personally I think this forum is more valuable than any smoker, even that over priced. 
The BBQ Brethren IS a forum.  It has been around longer and has many more members than SMF.  You trust this forum explicitly but say I shouldn't believe what I read at the Brethren?? 

The Brethren also has hands down the best UDS build thread found ANYWHERE on the internet.

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43943

If it was "postworthy to most the people on here that build their own", well, some people on here also build their own reverse flows.  Does that make Ben Lang a crook and a hack for the prices he charges for his reverse flow smokers?

http://www.pigroast.com/

I think a convincing case can be made that the real hacks are the weekend warriors who hang out on the forums and talk crap about people who are building smokers for a living and selling them to folks who are winning competitions with them.

But then that's just my opinion.
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Well, at the risk of continuing this mountain out of a mole hill discussion . . . but, what the heck . . .
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Oops . . . my bad.
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  Still $375 for a good heavy guage barrel would be a good price for someone doesn't have access to clean used drums or for whatever reason find that route more convenient.

If you look at all of the Testimonials page

http://www.bigdrumsmokers.com/testa.htm

and the Awards page

http://www.bigdrumsmokers.com/awards.htm

it certainly appears as if he is selling quite a few.
 

The BBQ Brethren IS a forum.  It has been around longer and has many more members than SMF.  You trust this forum explicitly but say I shouldn't believe what I read at the Brethren?? 

The Brethren also has hands down the best UDS build thread found ANYWHERE on the internet.

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43943

If it was "postworthy to most the people on here that build their own", well, some people on here also build their own reverse flows.  Does that make Ben Lang a crook and a hack for the prices he charges for his reverse flow smokers?

http://www.pigroast.com/

I think a convincing case can be made that the real hacks are the weekend warriors who hang out on the forums and talk crap about people who are building smokers for a living and selling them to folks who are winning competitions with them.

But then that's just my opinion.
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Ya Rocky we hear you haha and we thought you were really named Dave haha
 
 
(1.)   I never said anything specific to, this other forum you seem to favor, and you can believe anything or everything you want, and I never made any comment say this forum is better than that one, just that the knowedge I have gotten off here is more valuable, at least to me(if I wanted a BDS/UDS, the knowedge from here would save me over $1K).  I was just trying to say that (unless you know the person, personally) anyone can type anything and post it and say it is the true or whatever, that doesn't mean it is 100% true.  Even if it is true, you can't know 100% that the product they are reviewing, or giving their opinion on will be the exact same as what the buyer will receive.  It is also hard to tell who may be bias as well, for whatever reason.

(2.)   From what I have seen from Langs  you can tell the quality,and can see where the dollars go, I can't honestly say that for those BDSs.
 
 
(1.) The BBQ Brethren IS a forum.  It has been around longer and has many more members than SMF.  You trust this forum explicitly but say I shouldn't believe what I read at the Brethren?? 

(2.) If it was "postworthy to most the people on here that build their own", well, some people on here also build their own reverse flows.  Does that make Ben Lang a crook and a hack for the prices he charges for his reverse flow smokers?
 
DDave... you cracked me up! "He's my uncle"  LMAO! Now that was funny... Or I'm just easily amused this evening.
 
DDave... you cracked me up! "He's my uncle"  LMAO! Now that was funny... Or I'm just easily amused this evening.
you think thats funny haha but by the way hes defending him i think he is!! but at least Dave had the sense to add handles and a valve on his uds!! ohh!!

Ok lets stop fighting here and go post on Rockys forum lol
 
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you think thats funny haha but by the way hes defending him i think he is!! but at least Dave had the sense to add handles and a valve on his uds!! ohh!!

Ok lets stop fighting here and go post on Rockys forum lol
pandemonium, I meant no desrespect man. It was funny... Do I agree with his points made? No but I'm not going to let his or anyones difference in opinion upset me. I thought his statement about the guy being his uncle was funny so I stated so. I thought your opinion about the cost factor of the UDS builds you posted was correct as far as over the top. I stated so. I'm just voicing my opinion not chosing sides.  It's all good man. We all should not let differences in opinion poison our mood or this forum. After all it's just another opinion right? Have a great evening or should I say morning man.
 
Ya Rocky we hear you haha and we thought you were really named Dave haha
Now why would Rocky build a UDS with a Weber lid and paint it Daytona yellow?
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  Maybe it's part of a plan to maintain annonymity.

Oh . . . and haha.
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DDave... you cracked me up! "He's my uncle"  LMAO! Now that was funny... Or I'm just easily amused this evening.


 
Ok lets stop fighting here and go post on Rockys forum lol
Nah, let's talk about something really controversial . . . like foiling. 
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pandemonium, I meant no desrespect man. It was funny... Do I agree with his points made? No but I'm not going to let his or anyones difference in opinion upset me. I thought his statement about the guy being his uncle was funny so I stated so. I thought your opinion about the cost factor of the UDS builds you posted was correct as far as over the top. I stated so. I'm just voicing my opinion not chosing sides.  It's all good man. We all should not let differences in opinion poison our mood or this forum. After all it's just another opinion right? Have a great evening or should I say morning man.
Why apologize Wingman?  If you thought it was funny I don't see how that's disrespectful of pandemonium.  You don't agree with me . . . that's fine.  I don't agree with him . . . that's fine too.
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Nothing wrong with debate although this one has more than run it's course.

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No its all good im not mad at all I think this is funny, yes those damn foilers let me tell you about them!!
 
It was funny but I have a hard time reading folks through type... Sometimes my typing may come off the wrong way and I'm not one to purposely try and upset someone. I'm also one to offer an appolagy if I feel I may have come off wrong. you know defuse the situation. Pandimonium and I have exchanged some emails on video editing software etc. He seems like a great guy so I just wanted to make sure all was cool. And it is.

And for the record... Ok.. Here I go... Cringing... I do agree with him on the pricing. I said it before and will stand my gorund, those prices are... ouch! Too high in my opinion. Before I would spend $1,200 on a UDS of his I would buy a Yoder with a lifetime burn out warranty.
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If he's making a living and not sponging then all the best to him. Some folks are just hell bent on someone's success. And yes I am a Republican.
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Further more Meateater says it all. The not sponging part anyway.. Regardless of his high prices... I couldn't agree more. this is America and if ones dream is to build expensive UDS (BDS) or cheap ones for that matter they should go for it. What ever they make in money and due to support themselves as long as it's legal... means others won't have to support them through taxes etc. I'm too a proud republican.

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And now is a good time to say no offense to those who think differently.
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lol here we go again heheh, yes the American Dream is a very large open market for anyone to get into!!!
 
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