Bears and overnight cooks

JIRodriguez said:

I guess Bears are pretty smart??? - so does Mrs. Bearcarver agree with that statement!

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sctdg35 said:

Well from the kind of responses I'm going to assume there is no real answer . Thought I would have found someone that had an answer but I guess there is none . I think I am going to try saturating rags with the Havaheart spray I use on garbage night and hopefully that works . Don't want my grill destroyed . If I was not here when my weber was attacked I would have been spending another $800 for a new grill . Nothing like chasing a 600 lb bear from your stuff . This is not the first time either . Nothing like walking out your front door in the dark and bumping into a bear . My daughter is constantly running into them when she is out jogging with my granddaughter in the jogging stroller, carring Mace or wasp spray is a must .Asking the state to trap them is a joke because when the state traps them elsewhere in the state this is where they put them . The community has set up a phone chain for when they come through during the day so the kids can be warned . Well if I want to do that overnight brisket it looks like I might be staying up . It's a joke when you see the animal people with their stop the bear hunt bumper stickers ,guess ignorance is bliss .
 

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Foamheart said:

I was under the impression that bears like Smokey didn't like smoke & fire. If its hot and burning I wouldn't think a bear would mess with it unless he's built up some smoker street creds.

My problems are worse, the neighbors are not affraid of the smoke and fire. They smell the smoke and show up with side dishes.

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Bama BBQ said:

Is it legal to shoot them to protect your property?  If so, how about some sort of motion detector light/alarm so that when the bear comes by it turns on a light, wakes you up, you pull out your rifle and fill the freezer. 

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Bearcarver said:

MN put out a pretty good list, but Bears are a problem when they get too close too often!!

Some good info at Minnesota Dept of Natural Resources site for tips on living with bears.

Bear

Link removed (no offsite links) by Alesia (SmokinHusker)

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Bearcarver said:

Sorry about that---I thought it was only links to sites that compete with those who have ads here.

I have posted links to USDA sites. That seemed to be OK.

As for shooting bears to protect your property, you would be better off saying it was self defense, at the hearing.

Bear

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TurnandBurn said:

it was my understanding you could take any animals on your own land. at least here in OK i was told by fish & game pretty much your land, your business, unless it was some rare animal theyd have to be notified first. then again you can always use the nuisance animal claim..lol. .......as for the offsite linkage...youre right bear, i read it as it wasnt allowed to be links to sites that compete with ads, and unless there was no other way to show what youre trying to get across to someone, then it might be deleted. i think this has gone a bit far and is taken a little too literal....first this then the link to the MIitary Veterans memorial on the leatherneck thread..whats next...seems kinda stupid,

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Bearcarver said:

PA may be more strict with hunting laws than many states. I know in order to shoot crop damaging deer you have to contact the Game Commission first, and prove crop damage. Then they give you a special permit. Also if you cry crop damage, and kill deer for that reason, you are no longer allowed to post "No Hunting" on your land. LOLOLOL !!!

PA may be a Yankee State, but we have some pretty sensible hunting rules.

Just to name a few:

No Semi-Auto rifles for Big Game.

No Steel Jacketed bullets allowed.

No running dogs for Big Game.

No baiting Big Game.

Bear

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Mike Johnson said:

Shoot and grill the bear as a warning to all the other bears.

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TurnandBurn said:

Bearcarver said:

I have posted links to USDA sites. That seemed to be OK.  

They are OK Bear...  food safety is #1, but you knew that....  Dave

Bear

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as for the offsite linkage...youre right bear, i read it as it wasnt allowed to be links to sites that compete with ads, and unless there was no other way to show what youre trying to get across to someone, then it might be deleted. i think this has gone a bit far and is taken a little too literal....first this then the link to the MIitary Veterans memorial on the leatherneck thread..

                whats next...seems kinda stupid,

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DaveOmak said:

TurnandBurn, morning.....   Sorry you think like that....  This forum is a business....   I think the owner has done a great job providing a place for folks to learn about all things related to smoking foods....   If you personally do not care for the way things are done here, you don't have to stick around.....   There is a disclaimer in the TERMS OF SERVICE.....   I have highlighted it BELOW.....  

As mods, we are not perfect... we do what we can to see that things run smoothly and according to the rules....  some stuff slips by and we get PM's about some of the things we miss.....   There are many members whom appreciate the way this forum is operated.....   I think it is the best forum on the web and I check in to several weekly...     So, calling the way this forum is operated, stupid, offends the owner, admin, moderators and our members that like it here....   We do have the greatest members of any website I visit....  helpful, sincere, etc......     
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We have sponsors who pay to post their links and promote their products and it is just not fair to them if others are allowed to use the SMF as a way to promote their own websites. 

The link you post to another site may be something you are doing to be helpful but it is still highly discouraged and unless it is the only way to help someone with their problem or question, it will probably be deleted.

We have to be strict about this to prevent spam and unnecessary promotion and if you can't deal with that, then perhaps this is not the right place for you to hang out.

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DaveOmak said:

TurnandBurn, morning.....   Sorry you think like that....  This forum is a business....   I think the owner has done a great job providing a place for folks to learn about all things related to smoking foods....   If you personally do not care for the way things are done here, you don't have to stick around.....   There is a disclaimer in the TERMS OF SERVICE.....   I have highlighted it BELOW.....  

As mods, we are not perfect... we do what we can to see that things run smoothly and according to the rules....  some stuff slips by and we get PM's about some of the things we miss.....   There are many members whom appreciate the way this forum is operated.....   I think it is the best forum on the web and I check in to several weekly...     So, calling the way this forum is operated, stupid, offends the owner, admin, moderators and our members that like it here....   We do have the greatest members of any website I visit....  helpful, sincere, etc......     
[h3]Offsite Links[/h3]
Off-site links are not only discouraged but they are generally not allowed at SMF. If you post a link to another website, your own website or your best friend's website, it will probably be deleted.

We have sponsors who pay to post their links and promote their products and it is just not fair to them if others are allowed to use the SMF as a way to promote their own websites. 

The link you post to another site may be something you are doing to be helpful but it is still highly discouraged and unless it is the only way to help someone with their problem or question, it will probably be deleted.

We have to be strict about this to prevent spam and unnecessary promotion and if you can't deal with that, then perhaps this is not the right place for you to hang out.

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sctdg35 said:

Well from the kind of responses I'm going to assume there is no real answer . Thought I would have found someone that had an answer but I guess there is none . I think I am going to try saturating rags with the Havaheart spray I use on garbage night and hopefully that works . Don't want my grill destroyed . If I was not here when my weber was attacked I would have been spending another $800 for a new grill . Nothing like chasing a 600 lb bear from your stuff . This is not the first time either . Nothing like walking out your front door in the dark and bumping into a bear . My daughter is constantly running into them when she is out jogging with my granddaughter in the jogging stroller, carring Mace or wasp spray is a must .Asking the state to trap them is a joke because when the state traps them elsewhere in the state this is where they put them . The community has set up a phone chain for when they come through during the day so the kids can be warned . Well if I want to do that overnight brisket it looks like I might be staying up . It's a joke when you see the animal people with their stop the bear hunt bumper stickers ,guess ignorance is bliss .
 

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TurnandBurn said:

i never said the way the forum is operated is STUPID, yeh maybe i couldve used a better word, i have tons of them....im merely bringing something to light, because ive seen links disappear here and there and im left wondering what was posted and left without knowledge..see what im getting at here. i understand theres rules but 

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Bears in town usually cause problems for people.

Bird feeders and bears DON'T MIX.

• Reduce garbage odors. Rinse food cans and wrappers before disposal.
• Compost vegetable scraps.
• Keep meat scraps in your freezer until garbage pickup day.
• Wash garbage cans regularly and use lime to cut odors.
• Keep garbage cans in a bear-proof container or in a garage until the morning of pickup.
• Remove bird feeders in the spring. If you persist in feeding birds during the summer, remove seed, suet, and hummingbird feeders at night.
• Keep pet food inside.
• Keep barbecue grills and picnic tables clean.
• Use an energized fence* to keep bears out of beehives, sweet corn, fruit trees and berry patches. Barking dogs, bright lights and noisemakers will sometimes discourage bears from coming into an area.

Bears in trees should be left alone.

• Don't panic! Don't shoot! Don't approach it!
• Learn to tolerate bears. Many bears are killed or injured when not causing problems.
• Most bears fear people and will leave when they see you. If a bear woofs, snaps its jaws, slaps the ground or brush, or bluff charges, you are too close!
• Back away slowly.
• Go inside and wait for the bear to leave.

• Make loud noises or throw something to scare it away.
• Always allow the bear an escape route.

• Leave it alone! The bear will usually go away when it feels safe.
• Have people leave the area.
• Remove your dog from the area.

TurnandBurn said:

i trolled around bearsmart and didnt know they have that many things for bear deterrents...they have a 55 gallon drum that will lure bears in and when they stick their face in there it will shoot them in the face............with pepper spray of course..lol. as to teach them to never come back... they even make electrified mats that you can lay outside that when stepped on by a bear or any animal for that matter will give them a jolt of unwelcomeness..who thinks of these things?

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